I think you misinterpreted fenns possible message to you in scrapbook 130. In my opinion he was referring to the nobody guy everyone hates and how he lost his chance. I also think he was asking you to step up.

Depends how you recognize the trigger words. It’s also possible that he has abandoned the whole trigger word thing but I doubt it since he has stated that a “she” will be surprised to see what is in the chest. I kind of wish he didn’t spoil it that much but maybe it was a typo. I doubt it though.

Either way fenn is a hero for this treasure hunt. Wisconsin Mike, I appreciate your thinking on this... That’s one angle I haven’t seen before.

Aug 31, 2006. Does anyone know how to get a copy of the BUDS.

But (since I am one) I tend to think like an engineer, and am a stickler for logic. When one “puts in” a basement, the basement is dug or constructed before the house/home above it, right? It’s hard for me to imagine the house existing first, with anybody (i.e., Brown) living in it, before the basement is “put it” or built. So I don’t believe that your line of thinking is what FF had in mind when he wrote the poem. If you’re suggesting that the TC was “put in” (placed) in a basement or cellar below the home of someone named Brown, then you have to deal with the fact that FF has told us that the TC is not associated with any structure. But keep thinking!

Ideas that most other searchers have not had are the kind that will help solve the poem. Good luck in your solving and searching. Yep, Sheryl, Brown certainly is a common name. There are also many distinctive shades of brown. Let’s take “auburn” for instance.

If there is an identifiable location named Auburn(or any other shade of brown), fenn could honestly say it is brown. And since the name is Auburn, he can capitalize his Brownand say “put in below the home of Brown”. Is it misleading? Nope, one just has to recognize what is brown. Yep, lotsa Browns out there.

That is why it is imperative you solve the preceding clues, in order, or you will never identify the Brown!! Oh yeah.IMO.loco. In my opinion, one thing that might well make the search easier for you is to use “Occam’s Razor” when considering various possibilities related to the clues. Occam’s Razor says if two options seem equally probable, the simpler solution is advised. Since it seems that there are nearly a dozen other poem references to phrases related to sport fishing, it might be best to consider that Brown simply means Brown Trout. Hint #1: I believe that WWWH is a precise synonym phrase for a specific named “famous” point which is near world-class trophy trout habitat in the Rocky’s. Hint #2: “Blue Ribbon Habitat”.

Hint #3: I believe the blaze may be a large map feature which looks a lot like a common trail mark on a tree. I believe these hints will get you within a few miles and possibly a few hundred feet depending on what “down in the canyon” means. It seems that you go down to get to where you can go up so you can look down again. Best of Luck. Does anyone else think HOB is Browning, Montana. Forrest said that when the book was published their was something on the map that surprised him, He said that it was the fact that the map stopped at the Canadian border.

I think he may not be telling the whole truth. Browning is on the map. The clue is points to Browning. If you figure out the clue correctly it will take your search to a whole new level. The above is of course my opinion. I hope revealing this does not upset other searchers.

Any thoughts? It is more like skipping the first clues than taking it out of order. Someone could choose the correct Brown even if they have no information telling them it is correct. Heck someone could just say they think the blaze is one of the giant arrows from the transcontinental air mail routes and if they are correct not use any clues before that and find the treasure. FF has repeated that start at the beginning, so while it would be possible it is highly not recommended to skip any clues. Imagine stopping at a gas station and asking for directions to somewhere and ignoring the first third of the directions getting in your car and driving away.

You still have a possibility of finding the HOB the attendant mentioned but your chances are much smaller than if you follow the directions prior to that. JohnR, at one point I thought you were searching near my search area. Your response tells me otherwise. I wish I could guide you by drawing direction to the chest for you with my finger. I put off my search due to weather. In doing so, I gave myself more time to reflect on my solve.

Like your interpretation of below the home of Brown, my focus was not in focus. I believe, now, that I was wrong about some of the subsequent clues. I finally found one major clue I had been looking for. No wonder f said a kid could figure it out. That was f being tricky, or at least alluding to it! Ha, ha, ha, ha ha, boy he’s funny. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Delayed response- Not subscribed. I plan to search in the first few days of September, no where near Glacier National Park. I will search sooner if there is a good break in the rain forcast. At this time, I am very confident in saying that if I do not find Indulgence in my next search, then I expect to be returning with a good deal of other gold. The clues add up. I could be that I find f’s treasure AND a good deal of other gold.

I have been 200-500 feet of where I plan to search and I would not be surprised if other searchers have been 200 feet away as well. Meanwhile, I think I’ll check into another searchers thoughts of where he/she thinks the chest is. .is it just me, or does it seem ironically logical that “Brown” (with an upper-case B) seems like an easier clue to solve, yet possibly be a red-herring, in-so-much-as that LGFI cannot google her way past it?.assuming of course HOB is the third clue it also strikes me as curious, that the Appalachian Mountains (eastern board) were mentioned, totally out of context, in that same comment.and if Forrest was truly (hypothetically) sympathising with the LGFI, why didn’t he wish another chest be hidden in the Himalayas instead? Was Forrest making a reference to east somehow? (ex-East India Trading Company, eastern Asia. Appalachians etc).could that be a clue that the chest is located on the eastern side of the Continental Divide maybe?

Don’t even think about replying with more than 4000 words, Seeker) (or Tim!! You’re right Tim, we def need ya mate – as HoD just wouldn’t be the same without you.and your funny emouji’s 🙂 jus fun’n Seeker – you always seem to tackle things with a level head and a logical mind.so maybe we won’t make you walk the plank.just yet 🙂 but didn’t Forrest mention something about it’s possible to identify HoB, then work backwards to wwh (?).JDA probably knows more specifics than i do about that comment i construe “put in” as being a simple boating terminology rather than a ref to earlier clues – but that’s just me. Oh, and why can’t Lil Indy travel down the canyon? (i promise not to ever tell anyone.no, honestly!) 🙂. Bang on money Seeker, that’s the exact quote i had in mind – maybe i misunderstood your earlier question though “what if hoB is the clue that gets us to wwh?” as to Lil Indy being so close to the chest after solving the second clue, then perhaps you’re right, but i’m not easily buying it – imho “from there it’s no place for the meek” is also a clue which tends to denote that some distance is involved after locating HoB. Seekerthere may be a lot more to itand you can mess with the poem all you want.( not that you need my permission). I counted three “ifs” in your first paragraphI don’t think that is going to solve HOB.

Fenn has made a few comments about looking for HOB BEFORE getting there(figuratively). I will say that my scenario allows, that IF you have the correct WWWHwhen you figure out how to get there, HOB will be somewhat obvious. The first clue is imperative to finding the second clue and so on. In order I like it when you mess with the poem Seekerkeeps me in check and reminds me that there are some folks out there that are much wiser than me. Little Indy should get a special memorial pagefor all her efforts in absentia.

@Seeker wrote: “I gave an example, maybe not the best example, of all the Walmarts as to wwwh. I used Joe’s crabshop as to hoB to locate the correct Walmart. If we need to find wwwh, out of all the wwwh in the RM’s, Might not the correct wwwh be~ put in below hoB there only seems to be one of those, right?” If I may be of some assistance. If one were to use a Wal-Mart as the WWWH – then they can clearly eliminate many in the RMs, if the second clue doesn’t fall into place. Another checks and balance is the “hoB” – it is a check tot he seeker to ensure that they are correct, if they use the first two clues and the verification. For example.the place someone needs to put in is “below the home of Brown”, but if you notice in the poem, one must be already at a spot in order to do this.

Reverse those steps. Find a hoB.and then see if it is “north/above” a canyon or your WWWH. If these three clues mesh – then you are onto something. After all, if you can’t find your WWWH, maybe you can backdoor the clue, with a “check” of the next two clues. HINT: hoB – as I’ve stated is historically connected. If you find this place, you will only have a general area of WWWH and nothing discreet or exacting. If one were to begin with WWWH and try to find hoB, you will find that hoB will probably be a lot harder to decipher.

Keep is “unsophisticated”.:o). Yes.there are many, many WWWH, canyons, hoB etc.in the RMs. It is required by us to eliminate as many non-locations as we possibly can.

Does that mean we have to take each instance and work that instance all the way through? The answer would be yes, that is the path one should take. It is a difficult path, but not impossible. Sound familiar? FF is just not going to give this awayhe planned it well. IMO – my suggestion above – worked for me – as I did what he told us to, by using his book, a map and GE. And yes, my first search was a guess, but after I began making my preparations to go, I found that CGI picture of FF in front of a lake with his hat floating above his head.

I thought the lake looked familiar and it was.it was the same search area that I had planned on searching. How did I know it was the same.I found 13 points of exact reference on my search area and the picture.

Compared them and verified it was, when I arrived there months later and 1100 miles later. But it was wrong.

But it helped me redefine my search to a more suitable region. Failing paid off for me the first time.and I hope it completes with the pay-out next time. Where I wanted to start just to see what kind of guess I could come up with. I managed to use that guess and complete a solve – go to the location I thought of, but came home empty handed like most. But I eliminated one path. And I was able to use some of the BOTG data I did manage to uncover to formulate another solve. This one.I’ve reviewed over and over – like the first time, and will move forward with it when I am able.

Macro to micro I tell ya.and of course.at some time in your thinking, you WILL need to choose a starting location. Vice City Psp Iso Torrent Download here. Seeker, Just now read your comments from several months ago. I am intrigued with the concept of backtracking to WWWH from hoB. There are possibly thousands of places that match WWWH in the Rockies. However, there are probably only dozens of geographically documented places named Brown (historical or otherwise). I think this may be equivalent to your Walmart and Joes Crab Shack analogy.

Here is an example of an actual ground search which I did which parallels your idea. I found a location with the name Brown based on possible coordinates extracted from one of Fenn’s books.

To be clear, I am somewhat skeptical of hidden coordinates, but these numbers do seem plausible. The location is not historical as far as I know and is just a mundane geographic feature in a sort of off-the-beaten-path location in terms of tourist travel. But if you backtrack upstream along the adjacent canyon/road a few miles you come to a Divide Road. This is a regional watershed divide, which can be interpreted as “where warm waters halt”.

So there you have it – reverse engineered location for WWWH. So of course, what about the rest of the clues? Not saying, except that even if my particular search area isn’t correct, it could apply to the ultimate treasure solve. I haven’t read nearly every quote from FF so I may be wrong in my thinking on dome things. That being said is it possible the little girl in India cannot get any closer because she has a physical starting point?

I don’t believe he said anything about her not being unable to solve any clues past that. I am in Oklahoma and to get closer to the chest I just need to face the mountains and take a couple of steps. As soon as I come up with a starting point I will not get any closer until I have BOTG in that area. If correct that also means that any clue that gives a starting point the LGFI cannot get closer than that.

He may be giving slight misdirection by saying she cannot get closer than the 2nd clue. His statement would hold true for any and all clues that give me a physical starting point. So if the first 6 clues can do that she cannot get closer than clue 2 is true, she cannot get closer than clue 5 is true, she cannot get closer than clue 1 is true. Hope I have missed a quote of his and I am wrong, if not sorry for adding another stack of hay onto the pile the needle is hiding in. Rapidshare Nightstud 2 V1 0bits. Hi Chriset al I was just thinking about the “LGFI” scenario and why she can’t get past those first two clues.and my thinking has come up with. – because she doesn’t have BOTG to continue – she could have very well been at WWWH, and Forrest somehow knew this information, and is now playing in facts, because the LGFI didn’t know anything about the treasure hunt when she was physically at WWWH. To me, this seems like a very plausible situation, considering YNP is a major tourist attraction inside and outside the US.

IMO of course. Good luck to all. Hi Sandy – yes, i do try to be human, but often fail miserably 🙂 i agree that history may play a large part in solving the poem, and that historical place names are vital, esp those which relate directly to geography rather than towns or road names etc “The clues did not exist when I was a kid but most of the places the clues refer to did. I think they might still exist in 100 years but the geography probably will change before we reach the next millennia.” i’m also convinced that Brown is no typo, and if this chase is to last hundreds of years, then HoB must be a place of importance that’s recorded in some historical document somewhere.or on “the right map” perhaps? Ill have to look it up.

I came across the quote (or maybe it was a video of his) on a weekend FF fact finding binge. It was something I wasn’t searching for. It was either in regards to one of his bells with his name on it, or one of his buried jars with his autobiography. It was something to the effect of (paraphrasing) many years from now (I think it was thousands), when the Chinese have taken over the area, someone will find (either the bell or the jar with the autobiography) and they will won.

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